So, I've been going and working the fair for a long time. I would LOVE to work for the fair in some manner other than booth. I am a film freak and have heard rumor of a film crew that shoots the fair- I think that would be the best way for me to serve. Anyone know anyone I can talk to? It's the time of year when I should start working towards what I want to do versus ending up at my booth again just so I can be there. It's always worth it, but I am looking for change. Any help would take butt and kick it. Thanx!
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Re: Video Crew at OCF
Wed, January 23, 2008 - 10:53 AMHey there friend,
I am wondering if I could ask you how you or others find your 'niche' at fair? I WANT to BE there so badly,rather than just go this year! I am good at sooo many things and I just don't know where to start? I am way into photography as well......? What kind of booth do you not really want to be in this year? I am just looking for suggestions as this IS the time of year to get these thigs going as you said.... :) -
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Fri, January 25, 2008 - 1:22 PMHey Lady, yay! A response to my post! Wheee! Ahem, k. Well, i don't know if I have found my niche yet out there. That's what i am trying to do. I work at one of the pizza booths out there and have for about five years now. But I too am creative and feel I have more to give in that way that could benefit myself and the fair better. I really want to work for the fair proper because i think my energy will go to better use building this thing called Fair as opposed to selling for profit. On the other hand, I get to be a bit of a gateway for people with no other way to be out there after hours, which, of course, is when the fair really happens. For some folks, they find their niche being in the Eug and just building organic connections, some folks just go and do what they want and it builds from there. Some folks are second-tier fair family, have been going since they were in fabric diapers and it is simply their world and they find their path. I find there are many mysteries to the artistic work that goes on out there and need help getting into that aspect of the fair. But, hey, if you want in and you are responsible, I can introduce to a job that only asks four hours a day-leaving lots of time to really enjoy the fair and, of course, stay afterdark and really rock it. I very well may take this path again and would love to work with some rad folx! I already have a few people interested. I may write a letter to the ocf office just asking how to get involved on an artistic level, if I hear anything useful, I'll let you know! Take care! -
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Re: Video Crew at OCF
Fri, January 25, 2008 - 5:55 PMPolicy wonk here......
The Fair has a crew to help the media, and some of those guys shoot "Fair Approved" video, but the policy is NO VIDEO CAMERAS.
The official word from the office is that ALL VOLUNTEER POSITIONS ARE FILLED.
Please don't bug the office staff with these kinds of requests...they are busy getting ready for the '08 Fair.
Sepia, you've been out at the fair for five years, in the pizza booth? I would think in five years you might have had a chance to make some connections, to be doing the job you want.
Melissa, it's tough to find jobs at the Fair, but not impossible. If you are truly interested mail to my private box and I will give you a couple of suggestions with NO guarantees.
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In the interest of constructive dialogue.
Sat, January 26, 2008 - 10:19 AMWow, and I thought Burners were snarky! (Oh wait, you are one) ;)
As a 14 year worker, I can attest to the _sometimes_exclusive attitudes of crews at the OCF, and it can take years to track down the right contact. And many times one will run into the same attitude that you have displayed here: Don't bother, there is no room for you here. This is hard to believe, as i am sure that crews could use additional volunteer help, outside of the official positions that would receive a pass.
I can give you the benefit of doubt, and hope that your intentions were not to come across in this manner. I do not intend this to be a flame response, I do this to point out a consistent attitude that I, and many fair family have run into over the years. This is why it can be hard, even after 14 years, to find ones niche at the fair. Fortunately for every instance, there have been countless open and positive experiences to outweigh the others.
And to all of those reading this, and wanting in to the fair: Its true it is hard to "get in". The trick is show up repeatedly ready to work your ass off, and do this with out _any_ expectation of a pass, as they are extremely limited, ie: NO guraantees. There are volunteer work weekends starting sometime in April-ish, show up to as many as you can. If you don't get in, you can still be a part of the fair in this way. Remember true charity/voulenteerism comes without any expectation of return. Good luck!
Rattling the cage with love,
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Re: In the interest of constructive dialogue.
Sat, January 26, 2008 - 10:45 AMI'm the snarkiest guy I know. I WON'T deny it.
Look....I'll be celebrating 14 years of volunteering at the Fair, this year. That's not counting 3 years of working on a Day Pass and being swept out with everyone else at the end of the day. That's 17 years of blood, sweat, and tears.
I don't know ANYBODY at the Fair who won't talk about their job 'till the cows come home. I'm simply suggesting that it just isn't that hard to make connections at the Fair. In many ways we are the most open festival I have ever worked at (I've worked a few...). One only has to open their mouth and START a conversation....it seems that folks at the Fair are only psychic on Saturday night...otherwise how would anybody know that Sepia was interested in joining a different crew. Magical thinking just won't get anyone anywhere at the Fair or in real life for that matter.
As for new people... I truly believe that there should be room for new people at the Fair. Years of experience at the Fair and other events tell me that NOT ALL VOLUNTEERS ARE CREATED EQUAL. I think that; because it is difficult to find jobs at the Fair, we have the most dedicated, creative, devoted volunteers of any festival anywhere in the world.
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Re: In the interest of constructive dialogue.
Sun, January 27, 2008 - 10:37 PMYEAH SNARKY! Id'nt it fun!
I do have to agree that there is a wide range of opportunities at the fair, and an even wider range of usefulness in the volunteer pool. The Fair is a hard nit family, and because of this it can be hard to navigate the inner workings of the Org. This has always been of interest to me because of the attitude from within that the fair is a very open to new people sort of place, when in fact it can be quite the opposite.
From the "outside" it can be just as exclusive as a private club, and I must admit I am thankful for this, as it has worked to make this event a very rare and beautiful place in the world. On the other hand it can make for a difficult uphill battle to really find ones niche, for sometimes to give to the fair as one desires (not in the interest of changing the event), there are a host of hurdles, permissions, juries, etc. regardless of ones tenure at the event.
I don't advocate for a free for all with expansion of the event. I do see dramatic shifts at the fair in the last handful of years, and I see it as very important to look at how inclusion is addressed. Maybe a nudge more radical inclusion?
Smile
Wrench
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Re: In the interest of constructive dialogue.
Mon, January 28, 2008 - 11:46 PMNo... I can't sign on for "radical inclusion".
My early years at the fair I got out to the site every weekend pre-fair and just sort of did whatever stupid thing anyone who looked like they might have some idea of what was going on said to do.
My very first job ever at the fair was pressure washing the urinals on the sides of the six-packs (vault toilets). I had never even used a pressure washer before...but off I went, all around the fair, pressure washing those things. It took all day. Those urinals have not ever been that clean since. The next day I was asked to build stanchions for the bus stop and a couple of other places. I hadn't used a power tool of any sort since junior high school, so I fucked a couple of those up, and Andy man showed me a better way to build 'em....and then we just built them together because it was faster with two of us and some of those are still in use today (like 10 years later). I should add that in those early years I didn't know anybody at the fair.... I just kept showing up and trying to plug in anywhere I could...oh, and I was driving in all the way from Portland, every weekend...just in hopes of earning a pass.
I have seen this kind of scene play out time and time again, every summer.
And every summer I see a bunch of people show up and hang around and drink and pass the adult smoky treat, but they rarely get real jobs and are gone by the end of the day.
Vending is a whole different thing and I only have a basic understanding of how that all works with passes and such.
All I ever did was open my big mouth and ask if I could help....me and my big mouth.
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Re: Video Crew at OCF
Sun, February 10, 2008 - 12:55 AMThere is a small video crew of 6 people who work many more hours than the 4 per day you work in the booth. If you really want to do video for the fair i can make suggestions on how to show interest in getting on the crew.
Keep your booth job for a while, working for the fair you will work more than 4 hours per day. Contact the coordinator of the video crew before or at the faire and ask for a workers video pass. He keeps a few for the fair family. Make sure that you give the coordinator a copy of what you have shot. That is part of the rules for getting a video pass, and of course you can't use your footage commercially without permission of the Fair. If you are good I bet you will get on the crew in a couple of years.
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Re: Video Crew at OCF
Fri, February 15, 2008 - 8:05 AMvideo has changed a lot over just the last ten years at the fair as cameras have become cheaper and smaller, plus youtube being what it is... video is becoming very hard to police at the fair. Many video cameras look like still cameras these days... and security can't necessarily tell what's what any more. So I don't know what my point is here except maybe the ocf might want to begin rethinking their video policy in lieu of technological advances. -
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Re: Video Crew at OCF
Fri, February 15, 2008 - 8:24 AMPolicy change will have little effect, except how unsanctioned video is captured. Like any system, there will always be elements of subversion, and I imagine that there are hundreds of videos of the fair floating around. Control is an illusion. I think where the fair does succeed in curtailing video, is by instilling an ethos of no video. An agreement of the family (in addition to rules), which has an effect of enrolling everyone in creating the event, is much stronger than a officer with orders. Strengthen the policing at the fair, and in balance, the subversion will grow.
There will always be video at the fair. I would like to see quality sanctioned video of the event, as its strength could satisfy the urge of others to shoot their own.
Its a dangerous world out there, and you are likely on camera.
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Re: Video Crew at OCF
Thu, February 21, 2008 - 8:24 AMcome to the spring fling and watch a variety of high quality sanctioned videos by the artists known as OCF video crew!
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Re: Video Crew at OCF
Thu, March 6, 2008 - 7:16 AMCatching the Video Crew at the Spring Fling sounds like a good idea. I believe you can get the coordinator email address through the Fair website by request at www.oregoncountryfair.org/conta...s.php. Otherwise, you could visit the crew while they are editing their dailies at the Warebarn any evening at the Fair. They were at the Warebarn for many years and I think they are stll there. The Warebarn is past the Ritz, thru Watergate, just past the ice trailers. -
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Thu, March 6, 2008 - 10:26 PMIs that where the Wherebarn is?
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Wed, March 19, 2008 - 8:51 PMI LOVE that space and always wondered if it had a name- no one could tell me- thanks! Mmm, editing, mmm dailies. Thank you to the folks who have offered helpful tidbits and opened doorways. Truly, Paxton, Richard, Archbish and Wrench, thank you. Your advice and experience is why I posted this thing, I knew someone would have some knowledge to share and some paths to suggest without creating further blocks to participation. Without amplifying too much, Sir Duck, since we may well be working in the same theme camp on Playa this year, I do want to say that if you think the fair wasn't built on hoping and dreaming and "magical thinking", I'm not sure we've been to the same fair. It's all well and good to hold a hammer and be ready to work your ass off, but you'll just end up punching a hole in someone's head without the dreams and inspiration to initiate what you are building. It takes kick ass people with a good work ethic AND dreams to build something that has lasted as long as OCF has. And as a general sentiment, I vote yes on having the ability to wipe your own ass. That phrase came out of a group of us who rock our jobs at Fair having to constantly wipe the asses of the folks who go out and expect to be taken care of, expect that they do not have to carry their own weight. (These may be some of the very same folks who helped cause the evaporation of the OCF camp at BM.) I am not one of those folks. But sometimes it does take asking for help to get to where you are going, and asking for help does not make one a crappy volunteer, socially inept or not worthy of a "fair" shake ("is this thing on?") at participation. There-so.
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Re: Video Crew at OCF
Thu, March 20, 2008 - 10:41 AMI have heard from friends on the pre-construction and takedown crews that they are required to put in something like 80 hours for the Fair. now I do understand that the Fair would not happen without fine people like this to do the dirtywork...and I greatly appreciate it.....but gosh...80 hours seems excessive to me regardless of the festival. Those of you with booth passes working 3-5 hours per day really do have it easy. Sorry Ducky...but you could not pay me to clean any urinals at the fair.....much less to volunteer for the job.
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 11:23 AMI only had to clean those potties once...and I was happy to do it?!
Some people at the fair put in way more than 80 hours every year...it still blows my mind. No other three day festival I have ever been to can even come close to the Fair's dedicated volunteer manpower. -
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Sun, March 23, 2008 - 8:17 PMHey, I just wanted to hop on here and say that Sir Ducky and I are working things out-no bad blood. And on the gross OCF jobs, just remember that the folks who do the urinals and recycling 1) are our heros 2) are paid with gratitude, shower tokens and food vouchers. Not bad. -
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Fri, March 28, 2008 - 12:56 PMYay Potty Cleaners! OCF could not go on without you....... -
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Re: Video Crew at OCF
Mon, May 19, 2008 - 4:02 PMOk, so just another little point about video and the Fair...
One of the main purposes of saying "no video cameras" is to protect the "intellectual property rights" of our performers.
They don't want to find out down the road that some professional video or film operation is making $$ off of their performance with no compensation. Some of the little hard-to-track cameras are getting good enough to get quality shots -- and that's a concern. But the policy went into effect to keep large high-quality cameras from capturing our event for someone else's profit.
~jenny the media maven
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